Wireshark-users: Re: [Wireshark-users] Running Wireshark on a PC with afirewallinstalled (Comodo)
Well, funnily enough I am dealing with an old system. It is based on
Windows 2000 with Comodo v2 personal firewall working on the NDIS
driver. The duplicate packets are seen just in the outbound traffic, and
although they are a little disconcerting, I am not worried about them
too much. I was more interested to know what was going on. It doesn't
happen with every packet, mainly the initial SYN packets etc.
I read in another post the Wireshark sits across many layers of the OSI
system, so thought that this might have something to do with it, but I
understand your description of what might be happening.
As a side note, there is an advanced feature in the firewall to turn on
advanced packet analysis to application that use other protocols such as
Wincap - according the help that is. I have not tried this with a packet
capture as it takes more processing and I have solved the original issue
(see in anther post).
I don't think I have seen another fire for windows that is so
configurable, yet simple to use and best of all is totally FREE for all
use.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: wireshark-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:wireshark-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gianluca
Varenni
Sent: 20 June 2008 16:52
To: Community support list for Wireshark
Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] Running Wireshark on a PC with
afirewallinstalled (Comodo). Odd things happening with an H323callvia a
gatekeeper.
Do you see duplicated packets in just one direction (e.g. duplicated
inbound
or outbound packets)? I mean, ALL the inbound and/or ALL the outbound
packets.
I remembered of people having such problems years ago with some personal
firewalls. I don't remember which firewalls. But it's been years since
we
had reports of such problems on the WinPcap users mailing list.
The problem is usually due to how these firewalls operate. Instead of
using
the documented methods to filter the packets (NDIS IM drivers or TDI
filters), they usually hijack the networking stack using hooks and
similar,
and the overall effect is that the WinPcap kernel driver (the component
that
actually captures the packets for Wireshark) gets notified twice of
inbound
and/or outbound packets.
In this case there is no workaround to the problem apart from using a
different firewall :-(
Have a nice day
GV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Swinney" <swin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Community support list for Wireshark"
<wireshark-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] Running Wireshark on a PC with a
firewallinstalled (Comodo). Odd things happening with an H323 callvia a
gatekeeper.
I have run a capture on the local machine initiating the call. I seem to
capture the same packet multiple times. Is these because Wireshark
captures
packets at different points in the stack?
No matter how I capture the packets, it seems that the Video
Conferencing
program is simply communicating in two different ways. The packet that
is
sent for the H225 admissionRequest contains different information if the
firewall is set to "Allow ALL", or is turned on but with All ports and
All
protocols allowed. I just can't figure out why this is so.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Swinney
Sent: 19 June 2008 01:42
To: Community support list for Wireshark
Subject: [Wireshark-users] Running Wireshark on a PC with a
firewallinstalled (Comodo). Odd things happening with an H323 callvia a
gatekeeper.
Hi,
With Wireshark running on a PC with a firewall running (Comodo), will
Wireshark capture packets of information before or after the firewall
has
had an effect?
Something very odd is happening on a machine intended to be use for H323
video conferences. I have run a trace using a in line network tap and
found
the following to be true.
Something strange is going on here. It not that the packets are blocked
(I
think), it's that the information in the call admission requests packet
is
different. With Comodo set to "Allow ALL", the PC will send an H225
request
to the gatekeeper. Some data within the packet is regarding the
destination
of the call and one item set is called "dialedDigits" with its payload
being
the number dialled, e.g. "111". The gatekeeper then responds with a
Accept
admission and returns the ip address of the dialled number. A call can
then
be placed.
However, when Comodo set in custom mode, the request is still made but
the
this time the item set is "h323-ID" with the same payload, e.g. "111".
However, this time the gatekeeper doesn't understand the request and
rejects
it. The calling PC then goes on to query DNS, that responds with some IP
so
a second request is made using the returned IP from DNS, which has no
relevance to anything. The gatekeeper understands what an IP address is
though and so says OK, and the call is then attempted to be set up with
this
random IP! Of course, it does not happen.
With me so far? I'm not sure if I am! I captured this information via
sniffing the traffic both from the PC and the return using an inline
tap. I
will also run a Wireshark trace on the PC that has Comodo installed.
This is very repeatable, but I don't know what or why it is happening.
Chris
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