Wireshark-users: Re: [Wireshark-users] Running Wireshark on a PC with a firewallinstalled (Comodo
From: "Chris Swinney" <swin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:42:34 +0100

I have now resolved the initial problem.

In Comodo, turned off "Monitor DNS Queries" in Advanced --> Application Behaviour Analysis.

This is supposed to stop and application making recursive DNS requests to the windows service. I'm guessing that the application uses some windows service to resolve an address, but I don't understand how this affects the data in the packet. I guess a knock on effect.

 

Chris

 

From: wireshark-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wireshark-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Swinney
Sent: 20 June 2008 14:22
To: Community support list for Wireshark
Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] Running Wireshark on a PC with a firewallinstalled (Comodo). Odd things happening with an H323 callvia a gatekeeper.

 

This maybe the case, but of course it's not helping!!! Of course, the scenario where the call works is the one with the firewall switched off!

 

I was after a firewall that we could use for out end-of-life products (read 2 years) so ideally it needs to be free. Free firewalls are either incomplete, way too complex, or not configurable enough. Comodo is a fairly good and highly configurable firewall for Windows that is completely free. It allows for application, component and network monitoring, but I can't find any information regarding the type of functionality you suggest.

 

Would this type of functionality re-write such a specific elements within the packet? Is there any way to figure out the information actually coming out of the application, then trace its route down the stack and see if anything is altered?

 

 

Chris

 

From: Pedro Tumusok [mailto:pedro.tumusok@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 20 June 2008 11:29
To: Community support list for Wireshark
Subject: Re: [Wireshark-users] Running Wireshark on a PC with a firewallinstalled (Comodo). Odd things happening with an H323 callvia a gatekeeper.

 

 

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Chris Swinney <swin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have run a capture on the local machine initiating the call. I seem to capture the same packet multiple times. Is these because Wireshark captures packets at different points in the stack?

No matter how I capture the packets, it seems that the Video Conferencing program is simply communicating in two different ways. The packet that is sent for the H225 admissionRequest contains different information if the firewall is set to "Allow ALL", or is turned on but with All ports and All protocols allowed. I just can't figure out why this is so.

Chris


Could it not just be that there is an ALG in the firewall that tries to help you with the H323 call? And its active in one scenario and not in the other one?

Pedro

 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Swinney
Sent: 19 June 2008 01:42
To: Community support list for Wireshark
Subject: [Wireshark-users] Running Wireshark on a PC with a firewallinstalled (Comodo). Odd things happening with an H323 callvia a gatekeeper.

Hi,

With Wireshark running on a PC with a firewall running (Comodo), will Wireshark capture packets of information before or after the firewall has had an effect?

Something very odd is happening on a machine intended to be use for H323 video conferences. I have run a trace using a in line network tap and found the following to be true.

Something strange is going on here. It not that the packets are blocked (I think), it's that the information in the call admission requests packet is different. With Comodo set to "Allow ALL", the PC will send an H225 request to the gatekeeper. Some data within the packet is regarding the destination of the call and one item set is called "dialedDigits" with its payload being the number dialled, e.g. "111". The gatekeeper then responds with a Accept admission and returns the ip address of the dialled number. A call can then be placed.

However, when Comodo set in custom mode, the request is still made but the this time the item set is "h323-ID" with the same payload, e.g. "111". However, this time the gatekeeper doesn't understand the request and rejects it. The calling PC then goes on to query DNS, that responds with some IP so a second request is made using the returned IP from DNS, which has no relevance to anything. The gatekeeper understands what an IP address is though and so says OK, and the call is then attempted to be set up with this random IP! Of course, it does not happen.
With me so far? I'm not sure if I am! I captured this information via sniffing the traffic both from the PC and the return using an inline tap. I will also run a Wireshark trace on the PC that has Comodo installed.

This is very repeatable, but I don't know what or why it is happening.

Chris
 


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