Wireshark · Wireshark-dev: Re: [Wireshark-dev] tshark option for reassembled fragment output

[Evan Huus <eapache@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Mar 28, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Evan Huus <eapache@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> - We need to keep '-2' around for the case where the user wants to do
>> 2-pass analysis without any filtering.
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> Agreed, and that's still done/supported by the patch.
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>> - Buffering is unfortunately necessary behaviour, but still confusing.
>> We should impose it only if the user explicitly asks for it (with -2).
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> I'm cool with that, or anything really - the reason I made it the default for '-Y' in the patch is because (1) in one-pass mode it would be identical to '-R' anyway so redundant, and (2) it seemed like the least-surprising behavior for the user in the sense that it would have the fewest issues/glitches.
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>> It's possible we may want to go as far as forbidding -R without -2
>> just to enforce the conceptual distinction. This would have the
>> advantage that then -R would *always* renumber packets, (while -d
>> never does) which is at least a win for consistency.
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> Huh, that's an interesting suggestion.  I kind of like it, because you're right that would at least be consistent with regards to the re-numbering stuff.  But we'd be breaking people's bash/sed/whatever scripts that use the '-R' with tshark without the '-2'.

We're going to be breaking -d anyways, but that's what major version
numbers are for :)

In most cases, scripts using -R without -2 should be changed to use
-d, not to use -2R, especially if the script depends on the
non-buffering behaviour.

> How about this: we make '-d' usable in one-pass or two-pass modes, based on '-2' etc.; and we make the '-R' automatically-and-only be for two-pass mode, implicitly enabling '-2'.  I know you dislike tshark buffering unless explicitly told to do so, but I really think people don't perceive the difference of buffering vs. not in tshark except for the performance impact - what they perceive is whether the output is what they expected it to be.  Making them add another option switch that basically means "make it work", is kinda silly. :)

I'd be alright with this.

Perhaps, however, have -R on its own behave as it currently does (and
as 1-pass -d will), but print a warning to the effect of "-R on its
own is deprecated. Did you mean -2R or -d?". This would mean that
scripts using -R will continue to work as-is (unless they choke trying
to parse the warning, but that's unlikely since it will be to stderr
not stdout). At some future date we can decide to either disable
single-pass -R entirely or have it imply -2.

Cheers,
Evan