Ethereal-dev: Re: [Ethereal-dev] Harsh criticism from the OpenBSD folks

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From: Guy Harris <gharris@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:14:18 -0700
Gerald Combs wrote:

How hard would it be to fork off into privileged "capture" and
non-privileged "display" processes at program startup,

In part (except for the privileged and non-privileged part, and for the fact that the capture part does some GUI stuff), that's how "Update list of packets in real time" captures work.

If the subprocess were not to do any GUI stuff, but were only to send packet counts (rather than just the single packet count it sends now) and rely on the main process to display that (and to tell the subprocess to stop capturing when the user asks to stop the capture), the subprocess could be privileged...

or create a
separate (and privileged) program specifically for captures?

That program could serve the same function as the code in Ethereal to do "Update list of packets in real time" captures does; it'd be smaller and perhaps more worthy of being made set-UID, as necessary, on UN*X systems.

I suspect that at least *some* of the problems might have been avoided
with a higher-level language in which to write dissectors, with a
translator that takes that language and generates C code that avoids
using unsafe idioms.

Were you thinking of something similar to what we currently have with
the ASN.1 and NCP generators, or something beyond that?

Something similar. That'd mean we'd have multiple languages that can generate dissectors, but a single language might not be appropriate for all protocols - some protocols, such as ASN.1-based ones, already have specifications in their own language (ASN.1, ONC RPC rpcgen, DCE RPC IDL, etc.) or might have constraints that mean that a higher-level language would be easier to use to describe the protocol (e.g., some of the X11 stuff).

NetPDL:

	http://analyzer.polito.it/30alpha/docs/dissectors/NetPDLSpec.htm

might be one language that could be used.