Wireshark · Ethereal-dev: RE: [Ethereal-dev] Next Release: Win32 NSIS installer pending que stions

["Anders Broman (TN/EAB)" <anders.broman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,
Perhaps we should first split the question in two parts, most people seems to be ok with using
the new installer so ( if no objections ) we could go ahead and implement that.

The second part is what to do with the gtk2 windows version which may need some more thought.
I can see that it will be confusing for new user with two different verson no mather what we do.
 The best solution may be to have two different install directories and keep the name of the binary.
../ethereal/   
../ethereal-gtk2/ ???
This may also solve future *.dll conflicts ?

Is it possible to install the same file in two directories with NSIS ? ( if one installer ).

Two different installers may be a good idea as the user presumably nows what he downloaded, and
the difference can be explained.
Best regards
Anders

-----Original Message-----
From: ethereal-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ethereal-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Greg Morris
Sent: den 4 februari 2004 16:18
To: ethereal-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxx; ulf.lamping@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Ethereal-dev] Next Release: Win32 NSIS installer pending
questions


Resend as text... Forgot again.

I would rather have the installer create a install package with a
unique name reflecting the GTK version but the executable to retain the
name Ethereal.exe in each package. Many of my users already have
shotcuts on their desktop that will be broken if the name of the
executable actually changes. Either that or I have to make changes to
the installer and manually rename the executable before packaging.
 
Since you can install Ethereal into a directory other then the default
then having the same executable name should not cause a conflict for
those who want to run both packages.
 
My 2 cents,
Greg

>>> ulf.lamping@xxxxxx 2/4/2004 3:16:06 AM >>>

Hi List!

As there is a new Ethereal release proposed for the next week, I want
to get some pending NSIS installer things done.

As Lars Roland stated, recent versions (from 2.0rc3 ?) of the NSIS
installer has a *much* better compression algorithm included, called
lzma. This reduces the size from the released 0.10.0 setup (about 13MB)
to current CVS setup (about 9MB)!

I would like to switch to the NSIS's modern user interface, as it looks
a lot better than the old one, and doesn't have any disadvantages I can
see (beside the fact, that you will need a recent NSIS version to
generate the installer itself).

For both reasons I would like to see the current NSIS 2.0 as
"required", not "optional" as today, and put some information about that
to the README.win32 file.


Ethereal GTK1 <-> GTK2
As the GTK2 version of Ethereal is quite stable now, we could think of
releasing it in some "standard" way to the users.

I see two possible ways:
a) build two seperate installers for GTK1 and GTK2 versions (as in
current CVS today)
b) build only one installer with both GTK versions in it

To b) using the lzma compression desribed above, this increases the
installer size only in a moderate manner (with my current CVS files:
GTK1: 9,1MB, GTK2: 9,7MB, both in one installer: 10,2MB).
It seems that both GTK version can be installed in one directory, there
are no DLL naming conflicts or such, so there is no principle problem
with this.

This will raise some more questions how the installer should handle
some things, 
but I would like to get some responses if b) is a good idea or not,
before doing any further 
investigation.


Do we want to add some default configuration files (cfilters,
colorfilters, dfilters, preferences)?
I would tend to say yes. But as this topic isn't win32 specific, we
should do this 
for all platforms, not only win32. Even if other platforms are not able
to install these files (just don't know if this is possible), there
should be a basic set of configuration files at least available
somewhere in CVS.


My personal believe to the whole thing, when reflecting some mailings
in the past days is:
- require to use a current NSIS installer version (e.g.: 2.0 RC 3)
- use the modern NSIS user interface (MODERN_UI)
- using the lzma compression algorithm to reduce installer size
dramatically
- put both Ethereal GTK versions 1 and 2 (together with the DLL's and
such) into one installer
- put some example config files in CVS and install them with the
installer

Comments on this?

Regards, ULFL

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