Ethereal-dev: Re: [Ethereal-dev] New menuitem "View->Show" ... or hide all main widgets
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 04:14:29AM +0100, Ulf Lamping wrote:
> As I'm currently implementing the time format things, this is a bit
> conflicting.
>
> We have
> a.) command-line specified and
> b.) settings from the recent file
> Don't be sure how this should work then.
I'd say the command line setting should override the setting from the
"recent" file, which should override the default setting of "relative
time".
> As we now have available this as a GUI setting,
I think it was always available as a GUI setting - I added that stuff
ages ago.
> do we need this as command line parameter at all?
For Tethereal, yes, as Tethereal has no GUI settings. :-)
For Ethereal, perhaps not.
> >The "Automatic scrolling in live capture" setting is also arguably a View
> >item.
> >
> >
> This is duplicated in "Edit->Preferences->Capture" page and in
> "Capture->Start" dialog. I'm unsure, what the correct behaviour should be.
The Edit->Preferences->Capture page gives the default settings for
capturing. They can be overridden from the "Capture->Start" page. The
"View->Options" setting is to let you change it on the fly during a
capture.
> >The name resolution items, however, don't affect the display, at least
> >not currently - it'd be nice if they could, i.e. turning it on causes
> >columns and packet detail to show resolved names if possible.
> >
> What are they doing anyway? I'm confused about the name resolution in
> general and to what they will take effect.
> These are the places where the name resolution fields are "available":
> File->Open
> Edit->Preferences->Name resolution
> View->Options
> Capture->Start
>
> I'm really confused "what will happen when"!
Name resolution takes place when the columns or dissection are being
generated.
Edit->Preferences->Name resolution gives the default value.
You can override it when reading in a file, from File->Open (which means
that when the columns are generated, name resolution is done).
You can override it when starting a capture, from Capture->Start, which
affects what happens when the capture file is read in (when the capture
finishes, if you're not doing an "Update list of packets in real time"
capture, or during the capture, if you are doing an "Update list of
packets in real time" capture).
View->Options lets you change the setting *after* reading in a file.
Unfortunately, it currently doesn't cause the columns to be regenerated
with addresses resolved, nor does it affect the dissection of the
currently selected packet.
> >Of course, if Ethereal were an Aqua application, the filter stuff would
> >be at the top of the window, like other "Search" widgets (which are
> >really more like "Filter" widgets, at least in Safari, Mail, and
> >Preview), rather than on the status line, but....
> >
> If Ethereal would be *any* other application, the filter toolbar would
> be at the top of the window, just where it belongs ;-)
Other applications put filtering information at the top on desktops
other than the Mac OS X one?
> IMHO the filter toolbar in the statusbar is very odd in a usability
> point of view. This results in:
>
> a.) having less space for additional statusbar information. I would like
> to have some more general information about the
> current capture file in the statusbar (e.g. packets: 230 captured / 10
> displayed) or such.
> b.) moving the mouse pointer a lot up and down, when using menu / main
> toolbar / filter toolbar things.
>
> I would strongly suggest to put the filter toolbar up, just below the
> main toolbar.
Mac OS X would put it *in* the main toolbar.
Of course, that means if you have no toolbar you also have no filter
item...
> When I remember correctly, I have made this suggestion quite a while ago
> and someone (don't remember who) was complaining
> that this would result in even less space on his main screen.
...and somebody who doesn't want the filter box to have a line of its
own as it'd take too much space might well turn off the toolbar as well.
> I would really like to find a good solution for this topic, as this is
> really looking odd.
I guess you could have a "put filter field on the status line"
preference, or alternatively, have the filter field show up on the
status line if the toolbar isn't being displayed, and put it on the
toolbar if the toolbar is being displayed.
