Ethereal-dev: Re: [ethereal-dev] Expert mode

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From: "John Bourke" <John.Bourke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 12:55:57 +0100
Hello,

Point taken about the Ethereal architecture.  I need to brush up on this a
bit more.

I have potentially a lot of time to put into both application analysis and
an expert system.  Is there some way we could put together a design that
would be acceptable to everybody, so that we could add this functionality.

Thanks


john

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Sharpe <sharpe@xxxxxxxxxx>

> OK, I can understand this need, but I still claim that Ethereal as it
> currently stands is not well suited to doing this, because the code
> required to understand the protocols and pick out the anomalies does not
> exist outside of the dissector routines, which both dissect a protocol,
and
> display it.
>
> To implement an expert mode would require, IMO, that the dissector
routines
> also be called to just dissect packets and provide information that an
> expert mode could pick over.
>
> A better implementation would be to have Ethereal built on a set of
> routines that understand how to dissect packets, and then the packet
> display routines could do exactly that, while the expert mode could use
the
> same routines to dissect packets, but do different things with them.
>
> >john
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Richard Sharpe <sharpe@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: John Bourke <John.Bourke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ethereal-dev@xxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 6:32 PM
> >Subject: Re: [ethereal-dev] Expert mode
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> At 03:16 PM 7/17/00 +0100, John Bourke wrote:
> >> >Hello again !
> >> >
> >> >Has anyone considered an expert mode, for spotting network anomolies,
> >such
> >> >as excessive retransmissions ?
> >>
> >> Again, I think that this is not a job for Ethereal, but is a job for
> >> another tool that understands the structure of the protocols involved.
It
> >> would sort through the data and apply some heuristics to spot
anomalies.
> >>
> >> Such a tool, and Ethereal, would be helped if there was an underlying
> >> library that knew how to decode packets, so each higher level tool
could
> >> concentrate on its own job. In the case of Ethereal, that job is to
> >display
> >> the decoded packets.
> >>
> >> >john
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> -------
> >> Richard Sharpe, sharpe@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> Samba (Team member, www.samba.org), Ethereal (Team member,
www.zing.org)
> >> Contributing author, SAMS Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours
> >> Author, Special Edition, Using Samba
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> Regards
> -------
> Richard Sharpe, sharpe@xxxxxxxxxx
> Samba (Team member, www.samba.org), Ethereal (Team member, www.zing.org)
> Contributing author, SAMS Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours
> Author, Special Edition, Using Samba
>
>